"Vandelay Industries" (jerrycostanza)
11/09/2013 at 14:19 • Filed to: None
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"Vandelay Industries" (jerrycostanza)
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First, let me say this is 1000% pure unabashed speculation/borderline conspiracy theory. But, I'd like to think of it more as "connecting the dots"...
On October 8th 2013, 3:43pm, Ralph "show me some" Orlove posted a very interesting article theorizing how Sebastian Vettel may have had some hybrid help to annilate the rest of the competition at the Singapore Grand Prix by 32 seconds.
An F1 race, The difference between 1st and 2nd...32 seconds! Which was gained with ONLY 15 laps to go.
Long story short, its an enhanced traction control system that works in concert with the suspension allowing the the driver to get on the gas earlier. Read the post on jalopnik for the full explanation.
Why does this matter? On November 7, 2013 at 1:20pm Travis "The Big" Okulski posted a great article about the annoucement that the next generation Nissan GTR would be, Hybrid.
Well, lets see what we know.
The GTR is made by Nissan Motor Company.
Infiniti is a subsidiary of Nissan Motor Company
Infiniti works with a certain F1 Team.
That F1 Team dominates the series and has the worlds best driver helping develop production vehicles.
Now we know that Nissan made a bid deal about ring time's when the the R35 first got rolled out. The 918 just put a spectacular time down, the P1 has it's nose in the air saying we reached our target (<7min) and out of safety concerns, were not releasing the exact times and Ferrari is trying like hell to get La Ferrari within in range of the 918 or better.
Obviously these are HIGH END hyper cars for certain type of buyers.
But, part of me wonders if McLaren and Ferrari will keep their times to them selves out of fear. If a $95-150K Nissan comes out and blows your doors off around the ring which is very PLAUSIBLE given the resouces at their disposal (Red Bull F1 team). The buyers might think 2x before forking over $1M+. Essentially, that extra million is for the badge, and the badge alone? If you think so, great but that leads to the next question. Is that badge worth a Bugatti badge...? I would tend to think not.
I dont know the answers or the opinoins of people with these questions, cause these are high class problems. But, I think its great if Nissan is going to target the big boys and continue to push their performance if not beat it at a much lower price point.
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> Vandelay Industries
11/09/2013 at 14:24 |
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Agreed.
Grabs popcorn...
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zadtheinhaler
> Vandelay Industries
11/09/2013 at 14:31 |
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Interesting theory - I'm interested as to how this will play out...
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> Vandelay Industries
11/09/2013 at 14:41 |
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This too , M5's V8 + Toyota's WEC race winning hybrid expertise + carbon fiber = fucking spaceship of science.
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Shooltzie
> Vandelay Industries
11/09/2013 at 14:59 |
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I have a sneaking suspicion the GTR is not going to be able to scrape ~24 seconds off it's 'Ring time.
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Vandelay Industries
> Shooltzie
11/09/2013 at 15:43 |
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The number of turns at the ring is debatd between 73-100.
The technology from the Red bull car infers earlier accelaration out of turns and less corrective movements.
If their able to get on the gas .25-.5 of a second sooner...that equates to something between 18-50 seconds reduction in lap time.
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Vandelay Industries
> Shooltzie
11/09/2013 at 15:44 |
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.25-.5 of a seconds sooner per turn*
MentalJuggernot
> Vandelay Industries
11/15/2013 at 21:28 |
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Sorry to dash your interesting theory but your argument has a fatal flaw. The reason that the Red Bull F1 traction control is so innovative and great is because traction control isn't allowed in formula 1. The main reason anyone is paying attention to it is because it is a genius skirting of the rules.
Street cars have traction control - as I'm sure you know. These systems also have a number of different settings for different surfaces and levels of intervention. This means that Red Bull's TC system is - for all intents and purposes - already on the street and has been for years.
Now I', not saying that the GTR won't be incredibly fast, but I have a sneaking suspicion that there's no business case for putting F1 technology into a $100,000 car. Even a $200,000 car would be tough to justify. Realistically, with the sales numbers and cost balance, you'd be looking at levels such as - you guessed it - LFA pricing. And the GTR won't ever be that level.
In another generation or two, absolutely we will see the technology handed down, and the then-current GTR will be as fast as the LaFerrari/P1/918. But until then, you're still looking at the new kings of the ring.